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In the newest Comic Book Legends Revealed, uncover whether or not a battle with one among John Byrne’s points led to him being fired off Avengers West Coast
Welcome to Comic Book Legends Revealed! This is the eight hundred and fifty-third installment the place we study three comic book legends and decide whether or not they’re true or false. As standard, there might be three posts, one for every of the three legends.
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COMIC LEGEND:
Marvel fired John Byrne from Avengers West Coast over the controversy involving the Scarlet Witch and Wonder Man in his run
STATUS:
False
Something that comes up so much in legend is when causation and correlation are combined collectively. In different phrases, Thing X occurs, then Thing Y occurs proper after that, and so folks start to consider that Thing X is the explanation why Thing Y occurred, even when they had been unrelated incidents.
The humorous factor about this specific legend is that I’ve lined either side of this story individually in previous legends, and but they’re nonetheless someway merged collectively into one new story, and so I suppose I’ll debunk that one, too!
To set the scene, throughout John Byrne’s run on Avengers West Coast, he had the Scarlet Witch undergo a little bit of a nasty time. First, her husband, the Vision, was taken other than the federal government and now had no emotional bond to her anymore. Next, much more devastatingly, she found that her two kids with the Vision had been truly created by her energy and didn’t truly exist. She was in such dangerous form that it’s unsurprising that she had a psychological breakdown and have become a little bit of a villain for a time…
In her mentally unbalanced state, she determined to torment Wonder Man (who was in love along with her however she did return the sentiment)…
Now, that’s how the problems appeared after they had been PRINTED, however after they had been drawn it was a special state of affairs all collectively.
Here’s what the web page ORIGINALLY appeared like…
Clearly, Byrne was attempting to closely suggest that Scarlet Witch was performing some type of sexual stuff to Wonder Man along with her mouth, with out, you realize, explicitly exhibiting that. As he defined in an outdated Comic Book Legends Revealed, assistant editor Len Kaminski felt that it couldn’t see print because it was, regardless of the problem being rubber-stamped by different folks at Marvel who simply did not discover it (Byrne’s comics not often wanted to be checked, in spite of everything, because the man was a complete professional).
So Kaminski pointed it out out to the editor of the sequence, Howard Mackie. Ultimately, Kaminski made the edits in order that the web page was printed as seen above and as Len famous,
Book mounted. Goes to printer. Ends up joke, no laborious emotions, everyone laughs. Howard and John remained buddies. As it turned out, some folks obtained the unsuitable concept anyway… we obtained outraged, horrified letters from of us that thought what was occurring on the web page was Wanda CASTRATING Simon. Some days it simply does not pay to chew your approach by means of the leather-based straps…
However, the next challenge, Avengers West Coast #57, ended up being Byrne’s final challenge on the sequence, with him departing mid-storyline.
Years in the past, I detailed in a Comic Book Legends Revealed what Byrne initially supposed to do in that storyline. Well, because it turned out, Byrne and Mackie had initially supplied up the storyline (the place Immortus helped to change the Multiverse) to Marvel as an choice for a corporation large crossover (very like the same Multiverse altering occasions like House of M and Age of Ultron turned), nevertheless it was turned down. As it turned out, Marvel’s Editor-in-Chief, Tom DeFalco, apparently believed that by turning it down, he was telling them to not do the story PERIOD, whereas Byrne and Mackie believed it to easily be that he did not wish to use it for a corporation large crossover.
When DeFalco discovered that the storyline was occurring anyway, he informed Byrne and Mackie to cease it, however Byrne felt that that was unfair, so he stop the guide in protest (with Mackie’s blessing). Roy Thomas was then introduced in (after some fill-in points) to then shortly wrap the story up because it was with out going into the expansive side of Byrne’s storyline, which might have included the entire historical past of the Marvel Universe being quickly altered (here is an unused cowl sketch Byrne did for this unused story)…
So no, Byrne’s departure from the Avengers West Coast had nothing to do with the Scarlet Witch edited scene. That scene did not matter in any respect in the long term, it was merely an entire different battle between Byrne and editorial that led to Byrne selecting to depart the guide himself. No one fired him from the comedian interval. Over the years, although, folks have put two and two collectively and ended up with 5, and consider that Byrne was fired from the guide for the edited scene. It didn’t occur that approach in any respect.
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